"Sound itself precedes what we think of as music. Music is a more or less formal organization of sound, by point of view or by some individual rhythmic desire, however original the idea may be. Sound itself is raw material. The sound of everything, the sound of the universe, even the sound of things vibrating that we can’t hear, but a dog or a cat might. Well, when we come to making music we organize ourselves in order to produce a certain sound idea. And after many years of approaching sound through music one gets to the point where one approaches sound itself. To listen to what is over there that is not over here. Then you decide to use something that impresses you in the raw world of sound – and it becomes again what we call music. Some people might call it noise, but it’s organized sound coming from a particular point of view that we want to express".